...or should we take from the absence of your so doing that God approves of Mormonism?
It seems unlikely that God approves of a religion created by a 33rd degree Mason (33 after the death of the sun/son) that died with his little Saturn talisman on him.
It's all merely symbolic, except when it isn't. Interesting how some people seem to be able to invent or create religions, huh? Shrug. Bow to the cube at Mecca (Islam), wear a cube on your head (Judaic factions).. or follow a guy that claimed to talk to Moroni and what not. What a blockhead.
If the paths of sheeple following Judas goats* are wide and broad, it's probably merely because they are well trampled and traveled. Seriously.
*
A Judas goat is a trained goat used in general animal herding. The Judas goat is trained to associate with sheep or cattle, leading them to a specific destination. In stockyards, a Judas goat will lead sheep to slaughter, while its own life is spared. Judas goats are also used to lead other animals to specific pens and onto trucks. They have fallen out of use in recent times, but can still be found in various smaller slaughterhouses in some parts of the world. --Wikipedia
It's not really that complicated. There's always the Good Shepherd. It's not always symbolic. Well... unless you're in a great big hologram, then it is all symbolic.
...then you can bet there won’t be any other productive industries moving here in the future.
Industries in America don't necessarily have to be productive to be profitable at this point. So Cleanup Inc. could move in and probably play pretend about vaporizing the chemicals in a green way by partnering with Solar Power Inc. And then the government might even give ponzi to their cronies or clients in Solar Power Inc. even if no one was actually doing much about the chemicals in reality, etc. It might even be a matter of the "federal reserve notes" that trace back to the Federal Reserve Inc. and not pollution or having Cleanup Inc. cleaning much up in reality.
Actually, a quicker way to make money would probably be to incorporate as the insurance company of Cleanup Inc. and just go entirely into "financial services." Insurance Corporation, Inc.?
One would think that there would be some sort of an economic "correction" based on math and physics to the corruption of politicians and lawyers and paper and ponzi pushers, i.e. that little thing called "reality" in general would intrude on the limited lifespan of lying about value... but it hasn't happened yet in many regions. One would think that something more than regions like Detroit and Camden would have to give way eventually, especially given how utterly stupid, wasteful and corrupt the federal government is getting too.
I.e. "blue state" cities or regions like NYC and Delaware as the epicenters of financing the financing of something Financial Inc. may have to give way a mathematical and physically based view of "reality" too. It's not clear how papering it all over with ponzi and currency that's flowing all around the world can keep working at this point. The point is, illusions and lies have limited lifespans while what would seem to be mathematical and physical realities are actually real. And yet illusions and lies keep "working," at least for now.
Ironically people need the government to be full of smart people of the highest possible integrity... basically people totally unlike Joe "New World Order" Biden. Real. Dumb.
I wonder what it would take for regions in Delaware to "collapse" economically like Detroit and Camden. We might find out eventually. And then there won't be much money for Cleanup Inc., even if they're needed to clean up an environment that's been looted by some other mysterious "legal fictions" known as corporations.
The City of Wilmington's bond rating is AA- by all three major rating agencies (Moody's, Fitch, and Standard & Poor's).
vs.
Standard & Poor's Ratings Services cut its rating on Detroit's general obligation debt to 'C' from 'CC' on Friday
Apparently they wait until a region is relegated to the status of a bombed or "war torn" Third World nation before downgrading?
The pet scape goat didn't even have a clue about what "deep state" types of people in the government like Cheney and Rumsfeld that had been there for 30 plus years were up to, apparently. Maybe we don't need term limits for politicians.. and instead we need term limits for anyone that's been in the government or the FBI/CIA/NSA/Pentagon for over a decade? Because eventually many seem to start looking out for themselves and their interests* more than "national security"... and then whatever patriots are left have to become whistle blowers pursued by an utterly corrupt administration like Obama's.
*And it doesn't help when the attitude of the corporate media is: "Please take a leak on me first, me first! Official sources** are now telling me!" or "President Obama, what is your favorite color? Do you poop rainbows? I thought you might." I.e.... not an attitude of investigative journalism.
**Or Fox News: "Our official sources have told us this... except when it's an Israeli spy ring, then they didn't tell us anything and we scrub our sites. Bring out our Menorah, it's not a symbol of Jewish nationalism and Mossad terrorists. Whoa, a huge Menorah is being lit by Chabad and Rahm Immanuel at the White House. Anyway, there's a war on the national holiday of Christmas and Christmas trees... or somethin'."
True pagan nationalists mixed in with "JudeoChristians," I guess... so asking their opinion on Chabad's ideologies of racial supremacy would be like asking Dana Perino her opinion of W's role in the Bush crime family with his poppy.
Ramble of the day, too bad people apparently have no use for the "avoid entangling alliances" philosophy of the Founders and the Constitution these days. Because their philosophy would make the majority of this stuff irrelevant. People could even live at peace with people that take a Talmudic mentality, without becoming rather "entangled" in their ideologies of tribal supremacy or infinitely bureaucratic legalism.
That's the thing about the NSA, all that surveillance and they couldn't see the Boston boys being turned away from their training and can never see the work of Israelis either. That's because it's a matter of people being willing to focus on and investigate the truth no matter what based on facts, logic and evidence. I.e. it's not a matter of technology or better bureaucracies full of "experts" and careerists in "Star Trek" rooms like the NSA had.
Note that prominent dual citizens actually agree that Gaza should be "strangled" and all the rest of it. After all, tribe members are just preemptively protecting themselves from terrorists. Or something like that.
I would point out that ignorant American goyim don't have representation in the Israeli government to the same extent that Israelis have representation in the United States. Apparently the "special relationship" is all one way based on Jewish supremacy, an assumption that many Judaics apparently don't even see because they just assume it.
More assumptions:
"Give America your tired, your poor... wretched refuse!" --Emma Lazarus
"P.S.... but I want my own religious state and an ethnic, national homeland because we're superior to the wretched refuse or somethin'."
Speaking of the statue of Liberty, note Sarkozy's recent version of the same mentality: "French people will have to be forced to intermarry, after we force Arabs to wear different clothes. It's diversity and all that."
"P.S... I'm off to Israel to light a Menorah. We have anti-miscegenation laws there. And the Menorah itself is a symbol of our tribalism and our rejection of intermarriage and diversity. But you need to intermarry, dumb goyim."
Except for two places, I have retained the French word "métissage" (crossbreeding), and it's various verbal and adjectival forms, since "crossbreeding", "racial mixing" and other similar terms don't always convey the right meaning. "Crossbreeding" sounds too scientific, as when farmers crossbreed crops. "Miscegenation" is too technical and refers to marriage. "Mongrelization" and "bastardization" are too graphic. It looks as if "métissage" will join "laïcité" and "communautarisme" as French words that are so troublesome, it's better to just leave them.
However, if you have suggestions, feel free...
"(...) the objective is to meet the challenge of "métissage" - the challenge of "métissage" that the 21st century is confronting us with. The challenge of "métissage", France has always been familiar with it, and by meeting the challenge of "métissage" ....
It is not a choice. It is an obligation. It is an imperative. We cannot do otherwise at the risk of finding ourselves faced with considerable problems.
Yet he didn't have anything to say about Israel's anti-miscegenation laws or need for "change" for Palestinians to marry Jews.
Imagine that.
I'm actually for intermarriage of the racial sort. It tends to work out for the best. That's the irony of some Jews trying to use immigration and intermarriage against other tribes to consolidate power or new alliances for themselves while keeping anti-miscegenation laws among themselves. Shrug. Note that some are basically doing the same thing in America, that's what the multicultural/Frankfurt* school type of attack on "whites" is all about. If you're WASP then convert to Judaism instead of "JudeoChristianity"... and there you go, now you can establish your religion in a state, reject multiculturalism, get pretty tribal, have anti-miscegenation laws and pretty much just run wild with it all. You could even "impose" your religious symbols on the White House lawn or all around the country without fear of lawsuits.
*But that's another "conspiracy theory." Right. All tribalism leads to conspiracy theories... perhaps Honey Boo Boo America and ignorant goyim could think about it this way. On an episode of Survivor, a group of people usually starts conspiring and then another person gets voted off the island. Factions and tribes vary...
But “hoarding” has differing connotations, as collectivism in Soviet Russia demonstrated. Anyone who had extra grain and hid it in order to avoid starvation was labeled a hoarder.
So if you're concerned about results like that where hundreds of thousands or millions starve, then focus on its source in tribalism and racism and ethnic hatred. Its source isn't normal progressive ideas of the sort that gave birth to the eugenics movement or a "task force" on hoarding or whatever they're up to now. Even if they're misguided, many are usually trying to be helpful and not masking a dead eyed form of tribal hatred like Madeline Albright's.
For example, its Soviet version. Starvation included:
Genrikh Grigoryevich Yagoda (Russian: Ге́нрих Григо́рьевич Яго́да; 7 November 1891–15 March 1938), born Yenokh Gershevich Iyeguda (Russian: Енох Гершевич Иегуда) was a Soviet secret police official who served as director of the NKVD, the Soviet Union's security and intelligence agency, from 1934 to 1936. .... Yagoda also supervised the construction of the White Sea – Baltic Canal using slave labor from the GULAG system, during which many of the laborers died.
Yagoda was born in Rybinsk into a Jewish family. He joined the Bolsheviks in 1907. --Wikipedia
Millions dead. Hundreds of thousands starved to death. Children too. "Worth it." Etc.
Interesting that people can still hardly deal with the topic of one of the main reasons that Soviet Communism and the starvation of millions came into existence:
...it is impossible to find the answer to the eternal question: who is to be blamed, who led us to our death? To explain the actions of the Kiev cheka [secret police] only by the fact that two thirds were Jews, is certainly incorrect."
Solzhenitsyn, awarded the Nobel Prize for Literature in 1970, spent much of his life in Soviet prison camps, enduring persecution when he wrote about his experiences. He is currently in frail health, but in an interview given last month he said that Russia must come to terms with the Stalinist and revolutionary genocides - and that its Jewish population should be as offended at their own role in the purges as they are at the Soviet power that also persecuted them.
"My book was directed to empathise with the thoughts, feelings and the psychology of the Jews - their spiritual component," he said. "I have never made general conclusions about a people. I will always differentiate between layers of Jews. One layer rushed headfirst to the revolution. Another, to the contrary, was trying to stand back. The Jewish subject for a long time was considered prohibited. Zhabotinsky [a Jewish writer] once said that the best service our Russian friends give to us is never to speak aloud about us."
(Solzhenitsyn breaks last taboo of the revolution
Nobel laureate under fire for new book on the role of Jews in Soviet-era repression) The Guardian
If you're concerned about totalitarianism and people being starved economically then focus on the ethnic hatred that usually gets the ball rolling. American and European progressives are not the same as Jewish Bolsheviks or Madeline Albright being motivated by ancient "not worth a Jewish fingernail" ethnic hatreds looking at others starving to death and thinking: "This is worth it."
Everyone has had their own version of that. Islamic/Dhimmi, Talmudic/goyim, Nazi/lesser race, Christian Zionist/exceptionalism ... etc. But there's usually only one that people are generally blind to, make excuses for, or call people names like "antisemitic" over.
Tom Carper and Chris Coons are co-chairs of “The Third Way” , a corporate Democrat’s think tank in Washington that has been described as “oligarchy promoters pretending to be reasonable.”
Aside from Carper and Coons, the leadership of the Third Way is, “made up almost entirely of investment bankers and other Wall Street executives.[5] So it is not surprising that Caper’s organization is going all out to undermine and discredit Elizabeth Warren.
I don't know why they're even bothering, given that Warren probably couldn't do anything about regulatory agencies that have been captured anyway.
Meanwhile:
At a time when Wall Street is absolutely swimming in wealth, New York
City is experiencing an epidemic of homelessness. According to the New York Times, the last time there was this many homeless children in New York City was during the days of the Great Depression. And the number of homeless children in the United States overall recently set a new all-time record.
I think I'm going to join the forums at AboveTopSecret.com or maybe other sites where people aren't into going into some sort of weird "debunking" mode on all conspiracies. Given that the world is full of conspiracies, so you have to become a better conspiracy theorist or supplant the crazy conspiracies mixed in with an element of truth (Alex Jones) with a good, evidence based analysis of real conspiracies (Ry Dawson).
Mick has basically found a "Let's try to be more specific." excuse to program Metabunk to turn into the material of satire on 911 truth. But more and more people are becoming familiar with the evidence and the most likely explanations based on it, so it's going to wind up being him and the corporate media against the internet eventually.
I don't think he's corrupt like some people in the corporate media seem to be. It seems more likely that he just has his little hobby and supposed "debunking" habits that happen to be programmed and structured in such a way as to support his general theories and naive worldview. I wonder if he was a boy scout. Anyway, Metabunk is full of bunk... so I'm off to the conspiracy theorists.
I always almost forget how Mick is. It's too bad that a smart guy is willing to make himself into the material of satire, for whatever reason. My theory on that is that he's so used to dealing with "conspiracy theorists" that are wrong or silly that he'd try to debunk a conspiracy that actually existed out of habit. So even is something actually was a conspiracy that the "official sources just took a leak on me" corporate media couldn't get right, he'd never know it. Too busy going into debunking mode out of habit. That's my theory, anyway... too bad he basically doesn't allow any theories but his own on his site.
The
reason I insist points be individual addressed is that otherwise we
just get arguments based on the length of lists of points. And one can
always add another point to the list.
Given your own big picture or theoretical thinking, it probably
wouldn't even matter if a number of the individual points were verified.
In this case, if the passport was linked to a report of an Urban Moving
Systems van driving by and an Israeli reportedly dressed as an Arab,
getting out and doing a little dance and then dropping something on the
ground the "debunking" mentality would probably go into effect in this way.
"They weren't really dancing. Define dancing. They were probably just
waving their arms. People wave their arms all the time, nothing to
see... move along."
"They weren't really dressed as an Arab, even if that's what the police
report says. Define Arab. Define dressing. Everyone wears clothes and
they were just wearing clothes."
"They may not have really dropped anything on the ground and no one saw
that it was a passport. People drop stuff on the ground all the time.
They probably dropped their wallet. People do that all the time. It's
just a wallet. Here's a picture of a wallet."
Points and facts need a theoretical framework to exist in.
Get right down to it and perhaps the question is, what ISN'T an odious form of debt/money in America. Maybe the debt/money spent on having shrimp running on treadmills... that I might agree needs to be paid back to the Chinese or whoever.
But you want to try to pay all the "national debt" back through the Talmudic/Masonic bankstering system by which it was created, based on cutting medicare for the elderly or whatever? Real. Dumb. If anything, Israel should have to begin sending foreign aide to Americans and Talmudic/Masonic bankers on 33rd Liberty Street in NYC should have to "bail out" the American sheeple instead of continually shearing them.
Now that the war with Syria/Iran has gone cold, the opportunities to create more odious debts for the sake of tribal interests may be more limited. Perspectives on what to do about that probably vary, given what tribe members have said in the past:
Andrew Adler, the owner and publisher of the Atlanta Jewish Times, a weekly newspaper serving Atlanta's Jewish community, devoted his January 13, 2012 column to the thorny problem of the U.S. and Israel's diverging views on the threat posed by Iran. Basically Israel has three options, he wrote: Strike Hezbollah and Hamas, strike Iran, or "order a hit" on Barack Obama. Either way, problem solved! ....
A nervous Adler told me over the phone that he wasn't advocating Obama's assassination by Mossad agents. "Of course not," he said.
But do you think Israel should consider it an option? "No."
But do you believe that Israel is in fact considering the option in its most inner circles? "No. Actually, no. I was hoping to make clear that it's unspeakable—god forbid this would ever happen. I take it you're quoting me?"
Yes. "Oh, boy."
When I asked Adler why, if he didn't advocate assassination and didn't believe Israel was actually considering it, he wrote a column saying he believed that the option was "on the table," he asked for a minute to compose himself and call me back. Link
All people have to do is push back a little bit on the siege mentality and the racism and ideologies of supremacy that Judaics are being inculcated with. There again, you have to ACTUALLY DO THAT and stop letting them get away with murder because you're scared of being called names. "Antisemitic." Etc.
They'll stop proposing that a president be assassinated or arguing that "Well, we did call ahead before we bombed..." just call them up. They're not really nefarious masterminds, geniuses based on race. There's a lot of idiots in the mix too. And many are generally just some people that have been utterly inculcated with tribalism and fear, which naturally creates "conspiracies" or factions "breathing together." That's probably why it's pretty jarring and an "I'll call you back." breathtaking moment when they have to think about or try to empathize with a perspective outside of their perceived tribe.
Good comment on that article:
Really working to NOT dispel that whole Jews-secretly-control-the-world trope, are you Adler?
In all seriousness though: I've asked this before but what does the
U.S. actually *get* for our alliance with Israel? I mean yes, thanks, I
know they're the only actual democracy in the Middle East but what
things do they actually provide us with in return for us *endlessly*
shielding them? Call me stupid but I thought the meat-and-drink of being
"allies" was a sort of healthy give an take. But mostly it seems to
actually work out this way:
U.S. Gives Israel: Everything
Israel Gives U.S.: Scorn, Belittlement, Essential Blackmailing of Our
Elected Representatives, and, Every 18 Months, the Revelation That
They're *Still* Spying On Us
Jewish factions don't secretly control the world, they fairly openly conspire to and usually have an impact on it disproportionate to their numbers due to tribalism though. It's not a matter of fully articulated conspiratorial genius among all tribe members. It's just a matter of maintaining tribalism in general (while often working to dissolve all other tribes and factions).
Tribalism isn't even always all bad, it's a matter of looking out for your own or those that you consider family. But when that mentality becomes similar to the family/mafia, then there's a problem. "If you can't hate your family, then you can't follow me." Jesus
Or something like that. Take your pick of what he said, as basically every other thing He said or did refuted or undermined rabbinic attempts to establish tribalism and racism.
Bitcoin thus spontaneously developed a price, as do all things in
an open market if they are sufficiently useful and sufficiently
scarce. Let's look at value a little further, because it's a contentious
issue with Bitcoin. There are many (including Paul Krugman) who believe
Bitcoin isn't worth anything and is no more than a speculative bubble
fad.I wouldn't expect Krugman to "get it," but wiser/real economists
need only observe metals to start understanding why Bitcoins have
value. Link
What an idiot, as usual.
If Bitcoin goes to zero then it will be due to the unforeseen emergence of a better crypto currency and not due to the fact that it's just some "bubble fad" of the sort created by central bankers.
Without violence, what incentive did whites have to end apartheid?
The same sort of MLK incentives that whites in America had to end it.
It’s curious how most people justify terrorism while playing pretend
that it’s always wrong simply because it’s terrorism. Turns out that’s
not the case.
Even Mandela apparently wasn’t all rainbows either, as he kept on justifying terrorism against other terrorists:
In 1990, Mandela likened Israel to a “terrorist state”
and declared that “we do not regard the PLO as a terrorist organization.
If one has to refer to any parties as a terrorist state, one might
refer to the Israeli government because they are the people who are
slaughtering defenseless and innocent Arabs in the occupied
territories”.
Mandela should have raised Jewish eyebrows when in 1990 he embraced
Arafat in Lusaka, Zambia, likening the Palestinian-Israeli conflict to
the struggle against South African apartheid. “If the truth alienates
the powerful Jewish community in South Africa, that’s too bad”, said
Mandela.
During a trip to Libya, Mandela declared that “we consider ourselves
to be comrades in arms to the Palestinian Arabs in their struggle for
the liberation of Palestine. There is not a single citizen in South
Africa who is not ready to stand by his Palestinian brothers in their
legitimate fight against the Zionist racists”. Link
I’m not sure how a man that at one point seems to have been
surrounded by Jewish “antisemitic” in some racial way. I guess
antisemitism means different things to different people depending on
their perceptions of “race” and understanding of rabbinic ideas in which
ideologies and religions can supposedly be wrapped around or based on
perceptions of race and tribe.
Ironic:
As some 100 heads of state were gathering in South
Africa to honor Nelson Mandela at a massive memorial service Tuesday,
leaders of South Africa’s Jewish community were expressing
disappointment with the fact that Israel would not be represented by
President Shimon Peres or Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu at the
tribute. timesofIsrael.com
At least Netanyahu didn’t say that he wouldn’t go because Mandela
was a “”"”"terrrorist.”"”"” Whatever happened to the war on terror,
anyway? It seems like it’s never going to end.
Ramble:
Netanyahu on terrorism: “We tried to call ahead when we were going
to blow people up. That’s the type of stuff we do, probably because
we’re superior.” Arguments like that show the extent of the ideologies
of supremacy and racism involved in Netanyahu’s terrorism. I’m not sure
what Mandela’s excuses were for his but they could probably be as good as
Netanyahu’s.
In any event, at least Mandela apparently changed his mind
later or was willing to engage in the theatrical production of changing
his mind with the rainbows of tolerance and all the rest of it. Ironic
that he actually remained on a terrorist watch list in the
Masonic/Talmudic U.S./Israeli Conglomeration Inc. of a “JudeoChristian
nation” until 2008.
I wonder if he had to have his underpants checked for WMDs. There again, we all did thanks to Chertoff:
Chertoff Group, LLC is a registered corporation in the State of Delaware
formed on February 2, 2009. The firm is lead by Chertoff and Chad
Sweet, who served as Chertoff’s Chief of Staff during his tenure as
Secretary of Homeland Security. Mr. Sweet worked in the CIA until the
early 1990s, when he began a career in investment banking. He initially
worked at Morgan Stanley and was later recruited by Goldman Sachs.
Google
Lol. And there’s the fusion of financial terrorism, banksterism
and the supposed prevention of terrorism through the financing of the
warfare side of the welfare/warfare state again. At least Americans can
stand back and let $afety First Inc. or representatives of Israeli
corporations (That kept saying “We won’t outsource our national
security.” after the Syria/Iran situation went kaput.) stop any future
underwear bombers. Safety. Shew.
There are probably a few patriots left in the NSA/CIA/FBI somewhere.
Here’s to hoping that they try to do their jobs WITH THEIR FELLOW
AMERICANS IN MIND and not their careers in mind, not Turkish interests
in mind, not Saudi interests and not even Israeli interests either.
I.e. Israeli interests that apparently have more “dual citizen”
representation in America than any other foreign interest, etc. The
FBI/CIA/NSA need to do their actual jobs like Sibel Edmonds and other
whistle blowers have been trying to… etc. It’s already having an effect
on the corrupt degenerates within the oligarchical structures being
produced by the Federal Reserve Inc. and the banking cartel. (I.e.
structures that tend to put foreign interests and global corporations
before the interests of the American people, etc.)
Of course, it's also prevalent among everyone. Although perhaps one could look at calls for deception, usury and lying being aspects of a religion or tribal tradition as throwing gas on fires that already tend to burn on their own anyway.
It doesn't hit the corporate media much anymore but Greek peasants are
now "anti-semitic" thanks to Blankfein doing "God's work." It would
probably be best if people dropped the focus on racial perceptions that
only verify the rabbinic scam of telling people that they're Special
Victims of Hate and moved on to being directly and ideologically anti-Talmudic.
Almost forgot I need to save this, given the way Mick is.
Saving the comment above mine also:
Hello Jay,
When you have time, I'd appreciate a response to the points I made
above. I think for the thermitic theory to even have a faint fighting
chance, there would have to be enough Fe and Al by % for a thermitic
reaction.
And yet,
It ignites at 430C.
It produces iron microspheres.
It has a greater energy density than conventional thermite.
It is composed of nanoparticulate Fe2O3 and elemental Al.
It was in all the WTC dust samples studied by the Harrit team.
Yet, the substance in question has no known manufacturing correlate.
I appreciate your confidence in this knowledge claim, but how do
you account for the fact that the substance contains free Al, relatively
uniform 100 nm Fe2O3 particles and produces iron microspheres as a
by-product? You cannot simply leave these facts unreconciled. That is
your current stance, which indicates you have no interest in doing
science. You like to sound scientific, yet you fail to take into account actual experimentation.
If you don't think the label "thermitic" should not apply to the
material because it was burned in an ambient atmosphere, that's fine.
It's still unlike any paint known.
Again, a very confident-sounding claim, but have you taken a piece of dried primer (of a LaClede formula variant) and tested to see what temperature it ignites at? Or if it produces IRON MICROSPHERES upon ignition?
That would be a DECISIVE VICTORY to put to bed the notion that the
red-gray chips are some unexploded, experimental military-grade thermal
bridge material FOREVER! But we both know the reason no one has done
that is because that's not what dried paint or primer paint does when it
ignites.
If they were just some "variant of the LaClede formula," why was Dr. Millette unable to make that connection?
So, any material with organic binder is like any other material
with organic binder? That's so clearly not true, it pains me to have to
point it out.
Again with your "Anybody who knows can tell you..." argument from
authority. And yet, why has not a SINGLE EXPERIMENT been done to confirm
what "any decent materials scientist" can spot right away? Maybe
because it's not true. Maybe no one has done an experiment to show how
the LaClede formula burns at 430C and produces IRON MICROSPHERES because
it simply doesn't do that. Maybe you have to stuff your posts with so
much bluster and fluff about how "obvious it is to any expert" because
you don't have a real argument to stand on.
People who are paying attention can see the difference between an
argument with no substance and an argument with real empirical tests
underpinning it. You can quote all the percentages of material
composition, but it gets you no closer to dismissing the red-gray chips
as evidence of a criminal conspiracy attempting to hide underneath the
hijackings.
Except you don't mean "empirically." You mean it has detractors, such as yourself, who have no empirical basis WHATSOEVER to make claims of the insignificance of this evidence.
And yet again, you make my point by trying to make the red-gray chips,
as well as their by-products unimportant in the framework Official
Conspiracy Theory.
If you take away all your appeals to authority, all your bare assertions
stated with nothing but a salesman's confidence, there is no substance
behind anything you say. You can't expect anyone to take your position
seriously if you have nothing to back up your claims.
I see you bowed out of the discussion already, and that's the only smart
move you can make at this point. The science clearly undermines your
position. Your official theory is no help. All you can do is say things
with a sense of authority and disappear--hoping some weak-minded
individual who doesn't have the will to think for himself will agree
with you. That's what "victory" looks like to you.
This is why I don't engage with people whose clear purpose is to
persuade--not to disambiguate. I'm of the opinion that when facts are
laid bare, people can tell the difference between bull and sense. I'm
not selling a goddamned thing. If you have a problem with the arguments I
make, let's take a look at them and break it down to the most
understandable pieces we can. I don't fear that. I relish it.
What if they just simulated some of the chips weakening steel
columns and changed variables until their simulation weakened them
enough to "explain" everything else that was observed? Apparently that
would be a scientific investigation, from some perspectives. And from
your simulated perspective it seems clear that you wouldn't need a "red
layer of the chips" painted on during asbestos abatement work, given
that all you would in some cases would be "office fires." Perhaps when
NIST demonstrates, experimentally, that office fires can essentially
"cut through" thick structural steel columns then AE911 types will be
obligated to put a "red layer of the chips" or thermite on some columns
to demonstrate that it can "cut through" them in the same way?
Ironic: "If you insist on experimental testing to prove anything...."
(There again, maybe that's not really evidence of irony and it's just a
simulation of being ironic.)
Is it possible for "experimental evidence" to prove anything about
thermite in the first place? If they did take some of the chips and
weakened steel with it (perhaps to the same extent as apparent furnaces
of fire that can be generated with office furniture alone, etc.), then
what? I suspect that your quasi-magical standard for supposed
experimental evidence ("Office fires... yeah." vs. "Thermite,
impossible!") and verifiability/falsifiability isn't what you seem to be
imagining it is.
So what are you supposedly imagining that you would conclude if they
actually did take a "red layer of the chips" and "cut through" or
weakened steal with it? It seems unlikely that you would necessarily
then be capable of imagining that thermite was used on 911 and therefore
begin to be able to look for or at lines of evidence that it was, in
fact, used.
You also added claims about the hijackers and all the rest to try
to show that a simulation of an investigation has been entirely
sufficient, case closed. The conclusion of the official story being
that evidence of thermite or any other incendiary or use of explosives
generally need not or cannot be looked for in the first place. Yet
those claims were basically all false, so false assumptions seem to be
shaping your view of any evidence that thermite may have been used.
With respect to thermite and the technical details of finding evidence
of its use, what would be a reason to look for evidence of thermite in the first place and what would subsequently look like evidence that it had been found?
Right. You argue that if they "cut through" a beam with it then the
official story would be falsified. Curious that you don't have the same
experimental standards for the imaginary furnaces of fire that can
apparently be created out of office furniture and donuts, though. Would
you also want NIST to stop running simulations long enough to
demonstrate their claims experimentally as well?
That's it from Metabunk.
But here is some investigative journalism on the same topic: As the application of the
super-thermite must have occurred during the months prior to 9-11, I
have used FOIA and other means to try to find who could have been doing
such work in the towers during 2000-2001. There was one significant
clue at the very beginning. Two days after 9-11, Engineering News-Record
(ENR) reported that an asbestos abatement and demolition company
called LVI had done extensive asbestos abatement work in the World
Trade Center:
AMEC
Inc., Turner Corp. and Bovis Lend Lease were set to assume "lead
roles" in the cleanup effort, says Lee Benish, AMEC vice president.
"From the very beginning, we've been deeply involved with the city
department of emergency services," he says. "They're sorting through
who will be doing what." LVI Services Inc., New York City, which has
done extensive asbestos abatement work on the towers in the past, is
involved in similar work now as well as other cleanup efforts.
LVI
was immediately a suspect because it does a great deal of
pre-demolition work in which it prepares buildings for demolition. LVI
has done several large demolition jobs with Controlled Demolition, Inc.
of Maryland.
Partin concluded: “The Murrah Federal Building was not destroyed by one sole truck bomb. The major factor in its destruction appears to have been detonation of explosives carefully placed at four critical junctures on supporting columns within the building. The only possible reinforced concrete structural failure solely attributable to the truck bomb was the stripping out of the ceilings of the first and second floors in the ‘pit’ area behind columns B4 and B5. Even this may have been caused by a demolition charge at column B3. It is truly unfortunate that a separate and independent bomb damage loads of debris were hauled away, smashed down, and covered with dirt behind a security fence . . . All ambiguity with respect to the use of supplementing demolition charges and the type of truck used could be quickly resolved if the FBI were required to release the surveillance camera coverage of this terribly tragic event.” (www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/PARTIN/ok2.htm)
Soon after the explosion, Controlled Demolition Inc. was called in to destroy those parts of the building which had remained standing, and to speedily dispose of all the rubble of the building.
This, of course, prefigures the blatant tampering with a crime scene which became the hallmark of Mayor Giuliani’s approach to the World Trade Center, again using CDI.
The reason Bitcoin will fail as a currency is that Fonestar is
kind of right; were BTC to become remotely widely adopted, it would need
to trade to 7 figures and beyond. The # of available bitcoins is too
scarce. There's no way late adopters of Bitcoin are going to support
such a valuation, as way too much value would have to accrue to the
early adopters. Bitcoin will never become widely adopted; it is simply
yet another penny stock that will fly as far as the speculators will
carry it, until it is abandoned and the hangers-on are left with a mess
of losses.
A penny stock? Man I thought the people on CNBC blog were dumb! Bitcoin is a currency and it is gaining massive adoption in case you weren't paying attention.
I assure you the wealth distribution of bitcoin is much better
than any presently used currency. And it only stands to be more
dispersed as the other currencies become more concentrated. As a wealthy
bitcoin holder you spend your coins to increase their adoption and
therefore their value. As a wealthy fiat holder you print more money for
yourself and your circle of friends.
You could be correct, no one knows the future for sure. The
hilarity here though is that the bank now all of the sudden sees fair
value some 20% higher than the 900% run it just had.... That's like me
predicting in February that January WAS cold.
So this isn't about offering market advice by the bank on BTC, it's
about controlling its advance, because if it gets away on them, they
lose.
BofA just released a personal desperation piece, that's all. And its feckin' hilarious.
It may "crash" again but the overall cycle and trajectory is up because there is ultimately real value in escaping (to some extent) what central bankers have been doing with their own largely virtual/digital currencies by means of another virtual/digital store of value.
People like to say that it's a tulip bubble but what if dollars and the central banker's ponzi is more like a tulip bubble?
To some extent, I don't care if the value of Bitcoin fluctuates because for me it's: "Target, banksters." Although I do care in the sense that wild fluctuations may result in Bitcoin failing to be integrated in economies more than it already has been. But some pretty wild fluctuations haven't stopped it yet.
Anyway, kind of ironic that a lot of people keep saying that Bitcoin is a ponzi scheme just like the oligarchs' and banksters' virtual currencies that they've already been incorporated in using, which just goes to show that a lot of people are utterly clueless.
Shrug.
Bitcoin may be in a bubble now* but if anything is like the proverbial tulip bubble, it's the stock market.
*I actually doubt that, given how fast it's being integrated into economies anywhere from China to Afghanistan. So if it crashes again, my interpretation would be that it's undervalued.
....the exponential growth that is seen in BTC is observed in both bubbles and to network technology adoption.
You think it is the former. I think that it is much more likely that we
are looking at the adopti on of a fundamentally new network technology.
We are already seeing it develop an ecosystem and secondary uses (e.g.,
proof of existence of documents at a given time by inserting info into
the public blockchain). Moreover, the ordinary transaction trades are
increasing exponentially along with the speculation, and this is despite
the massive deflation it is experiencing, which ordinarily depresses
transactions in a currency.
BTC may be supplanted by another better currency, or may succumb to one
of the many upcoming hurdles it faces. But it is also providing real
value as a global, essentially frictionless and fee-free way to transfer
funds around the world (and potentially eating the bank's lunch on the
funds transfer biz.).
People like to feel special.. even European converts to Judaism that
probably aren't even Semitic in the sense of being some sort of an
ancient racial group. Convert and then you could accuse everyone of
antisemitism due to the fact that reactionary thug heads like the Golden
Dawn legitimize the whole idea of the Jewish religion being racial or
having something to do with "race." Racism breeds racism, given that
it's a matter of perceptions that have little to do with physical reality. (But
you can't sit around saying that it has little to do with reality if
some racist thug heads from the Golden Dawn are headed your way or some
Talmudic tribe members are trying to fleece those that they perceive as
cattle or goyim. Because they're going to make their perceptions of
superiority a reality if you let them, even if it is idiotic to feel
some racial or tribal identity with a group containing a lot of idiots.
Maybe that's why they're always pointing to other groups or perceptions
of them. Otherwise they'd have to deal with the fact that they don't
even agree with each other and their groups contain idiots.)
[quote]Err...
haven't you noticed that (almost) all white people are antisemitic,
anti-eastern, anti-Muslim and anti-black (in increasing order of
application).
Racism is so deeply ingrained.[/quote]
It
is pretty silly. If your whole worldview or deepest
ideologies about how you fit into the world are based on something that can disappear when people have
sex with each other then there's a problem.
Ironically
race doesn't even really exist the way most people think it does. In
general, there are only perceptions of race that turn into reality in the form of tribes. But
in a world where perceptions can become reality based on tribalism,
it's important to take perceptions of race into account sometimes.
If you can
have anything from "blonde bimbos"* to ideologies about blue eyed Aryans based on
little things in life like having blonde hair, then it's important to
take into account how stupid most people are based on "racial"
perceptions and so forth. (Apparently I'm supposedly pompous for often
writing that other people are being stupid. But... whatever... and in
this case, how is a lot of this stuff supposedly not stupid? There's no other way of putting it.)
*Not to mention the best selling types of hair coloring sold to women since ancient times, etc.
I'm thinking about a post on Richard Kohen, I mean Richard "interracial marriage must make people want to gag" Cohen.
That the police would even deign to co-operate with such poisonous
and prejudiced characters and their fantasies of racial purity is
indicative of the malaise gripping certain sectors of Israeli society,
both at street and state level.
Whatever the more blinkered
supporters of Israel's sectarianism say, day after day more evidence
piles up attesting to the shocking reality behind Israel's mask of being
a tolerant, equitable and democratic "country of all its citizens". The
likes of the modesty patrols and the anti-miscegenation squads belong
in the furthest recesses of history, yet apparently the Israeli
authorities are not only happy to tolerate their presence, but to
actively support their work as well. Link
There's probably a link here.
Many Israelis experience as unpleasant
the marriage registration process, during which stringent Orthodox
rabbis often require that they produce extensive documentation proving
their union is not proscribed under Jewish law. Such unions include a
marriage between a Jew and non-Jew, and between a kohen (or member of
the priestly caste) and a divorcee.
Knesset passes "revolutionary" marriage law
I think this might be the main problem:
“To borrow money on the credit of the United States.” From who? And
why, if the “united states” can issue its own currency?
Maybe Congress should just do what the international bankers are
doing and create it out of nothing every time people agree that they
need to create more debt/money. Then the debate over how much should be
spent in the public “interest” without interest or how limited the
government should be could take place. (I.e. the “socialists” and the
“capitalists” could finally have their little debates in an authentic
way without being guided along by the Masonic hidden hand of people like
Marx or “capitalists” being incorporated and guided along by 33rd
Liberty Street.)
But as things stand the differences between socialists and
capitalists are less and less (both agree with letting banksters trickle
trillions out of the country, etc.) even as “the base” of each party
becomes more and more discontent with their lack of an ability to have
representation in their government, given that it’s actually banksterism
that rules the day. This goes back to before Ronnie Raygun decided to
market the creation of exponential amounts of debt/money in the name of
national defense. Although he was a good entertainer in chief, seems to
me. And now Obama has to find a way of marketing the creation of even
more debt/money than all the other presidents. Surprise.
Shrug. As long as the freedom to connect is maintained on the
internet (RIP Aaron Swartz) it’s likely that it’s going to undermine
current power structures anyway. If not through Bitcoin, then through
another crypto currency… it’s already begun. Or if not through Youtube
beginning to undermine the utterly corrupt banking/corporate media of
the virtual Pyramid Scheme Inc. and the idiotic “journalists”
incorporated in it, then through another form of social media. It’s all
already beginning. Interesting to note that there’s a fair amount of
synergy between trends that are being produced by new forms of
information technology and the philosophy of the Founders, especially
Jefferson.
Well that escalated quickly. Having broken above $900 yesterday to new
record highs (and a 100% gain in a week), the crypto currency is not
looking back now. On what is higher than average volume this morning,
Bitcoin just broke above the magic $1000 level for the first time (at
$1025). Meanwhile, the BTC China "arb'd" rate is around $950 for those
playing at home; and Litecoin has just topped $26 (from $4 a week ago!).
Ironically, when they stop denominating it in ponzi like "federal reserve notes" then you'll know it's beginning to be incorporated into people's lives as a currency.
I guess you probably think in terms of "strategic objectives" like: "That peasant over there may have bombs or guns, therefore we'll go police them and try to win some hearts and minds and stuff. And eventually they may even have a democracy and a central bank, like America."
But that's not much of an overall "strategic objective" and the way a world incorporated in "American"/bankstering petro/narco/weapons dollars actually works.
So I start writing about opium and the average American begins scratching their head because they think that the Afghan war was meant to be "won" by Team America. Or that a bunch of humanitarian clowns in Washington and their financiers in NYC are just bumbling and stumbling their way to "....never been witnessed before in the history of Afghanistan..." amounts of poppies being grown. For the average American it would seem that Bush, the humanitarian clown valiantly fighting terrism while looking for WMDs and Osama, just happened to fall into a field of poppies along side the yellow brick road of the Wizard of the Fed after his poppy was president.
Interesting perspective. The irony being that it was probably Bush's perspective too. Going with his gut again, etc. That man could probably have an ELF weapon pointed as his head and think that it was the voice of God telling him to go to war. But at least he would honestly hug the troops when they came back. Mainly because he honestly believed in it all and the war on terrism in general.
That's all well and good. But that ignorant and stupid perspective, touching as it may be, doesn't have much to do with "strategic objectives" of Talmudists in general and the price of the narco and petrodollars of their private banking cartel, in reality. Leave it to Americans to get themselves killed over a reality show led by their entertainer in chief, I guess.
Since October 2001, opium poppy cultivation has skyrocketed. The
presence of occupation forces in Afghanistan did not result in the
eradication of poppy cultivation. Quite the opposite.
The Taliban prohibition had indeed caused “the beginning of a heroin
shortage in Europe by the end of 2001″, as acknowledged by the UNODC.
Heroin is a multibillion dollar business supported by powerful
interests, which requires a steady and secure commodity flow. One of the
“hidden” objectives of the war was precisely to restore the CIA
sponsored drug trade to its historical levels and exert direct control
over the drug routes.
Immediately following the October 2001 invasion, opium markets were
restored. Opium prices spiraled. By early 2002, the opium price (in
dollars/kg) was almost 10 times higher than in 2000.
In 2001, under the Taliban opiate production stood at 185 tons,
increasing to 3400 tons in 2002 under the US sponsored puppet regime of
President Hamid Karzai. ....
It is worth recalling the history of the Golden Crescent drug trade,
which is intimately related to the CIA’s covert operations in the
region since the onslaught of the Soviet-Afghan war and its aftermath.
Prior to the Soviet-Afghan war (1979-1989), opium production in
Afghanistan and Pakistan was directed to small regional markets. There
was no local production of heroin. (Alfred McCoy, Drug Fallout: the
CIA’s Forty Year Complicity in the Narcotics Trade. The Progressive, 1
August 1997).
The Afghan narcotics economy was a carefully designed project of the CIA, supported by US foreign policy. As revealed in the Iran-Contra and Bank of Commerce and Credit
International (BCCI) scandals, CIA covert operations in support of the
Afghan Mujahideen had been funded through the laundering of drug money.
Marriage is an exclusively
religious institution in Israel, with separate religious authorities for
Jews and Muslims, Christians and Druze. For Israeli Jews, marriage
policy is dictated by the Chief Rabbinate, which is under the exclusive
control of the Orthodox—and firmly opposed to gay marriage. Since the
country has no civil marriage, gay couples seeking to marry within the
borders of Israel are out of luck (as are any Jewish Israelis seeking a
non-Orthodox marriage ceremony).
This arrangement—whereby marriage is in the control of the Orthodox
rabbinate—is part of what Israelis call the status quo: an understanding
between secular and religious Jews regarding the balance between
religion and state. The status quo affects not only marriage, but also
the education system, family law, supervision of kosher restaurants, and
the opening of shops and public transportation on shabbat.
Altering the status quo, particularly concerning something as
delicate as marriage, is the third rail of Israeli politics. This is not
only because of the power and importance of ultra-Orthodox parties in
the Israeli political system, but also due to a fear that changing the
status quo would lead to the encroachment of secular values upon the
religious—and vice-versa. Among Israel’s many political parties, only
Meretz—a left-wing, social democratic faction—proposes to upend the
status quo entirely by separating religion from state and legalising
civil marriage. Slate
The irony is that:
...the Talmud will allow homosexual congress with young boys and here is the evidence that it does, photographically reproduced directly from the Steinsaltz Talmud (and this is probably why publication of the volumes of the Steinsaltz Talmud was stopped midway through publication and dropped completely. It’s now out of print, in favor of redacted translations such as the recent Artscroll/Schottenstein edition).
If the reader were to ask a rabbi about the uncensored text of Sanhedrin 54B, after the rabbi recovered from his shock that you even were aware of it, he’s likely to fob you off with the oft-heard claim that this Talmud passage was “just Rav's opinion in a debate with Shmuel.” What he is not likely to reveal to you is that the post-Talmudic codifier of Judaic law, Moses Maimonides, confirmed that Rav’s ruling about sex with a boy less than nine years old was the correct one — the adult is exempt from liability for having sex with a boy less than nine years of age. (Maimonides’ decision in favor of Rav’s depraved ruling may be found in Issurei Biah 1:14). Moreover, the text of BT Ketubot 11b and of Sanhedrin 54b photographically reproduced from the Steinsaltz Talmud on the previous page, fully support the halakha that the age of nine is the key factor in determining when sex with a boy is permissible. Judaism’s halakha, as derived from the “sages” of the Babylonian Talmud, amounts to a free pass for Talmudic child molesters. (Judaism Discovered: A Study of the
Anti-Biblical Religion of Racism, Self-Worship, Superstition and Deceit by Hoffman, Michael (2008-08-10))
Why you'll probably never get anywhere with people that are taught tribalism and a siege mentality from birth, to the point that they'll typically seem to defend their perceived tribe no matter what it does:
Talmudists are taught that nonJudaics by their very biological and spiritual nature are irrevocably “Jew” haters. ...the essence of anti-Goyism is passed to Jewish children with their mother’s milk, and then nurtured, fed and watered carefully into a full-blown phobia throughout their lives...Their attitudes are then perfectly formed. They know whom to hate...They want their children to hate the Goyim...They want to deny the humanity that links all people...Anti-Goyism is a foundation of the Orthodox and Hasidic philosophy and way of life.”
The Talmudist smiles, shakes hands, offers conviviality and seemingly friendly words —and this includes alleged support for hot button conservative family values issues wherein they “join” Christians in giving the appearance of condemning homosexuality and abortion — all of this is a calculated ploy to win time and gain a definitive edge over gentiles, until the power of the synagogue and the Sanhedrin are total. If the synagogue and the Sanhedrin should establish supremacy over the West, and they are well on their way to doing so, the pseudo-humanitarian and pseudo-conservative camouflage will vanish, and all gentiles save the masonic variety will have the status of Palestinians: to be killed, tortured or imprisoned at will, without fear of prosecution, meaningful protest or even much notice being taken of their liquidation.
Nothing can ameliorate the ultimate status of gentiles in halacha. Their status can be temporarily ameliorated for the sake of gaining opportunistic advantage, but beneath that expedient, the gentile is always viewed as another Esau, forever locked in battle with the Holy People of Judaism.
The objection may be raised that this teaching that Judaics are always and invariably hated by gentiles is limited only to the most retrograde bearded rabbi in some back alley shul in Mea Shearim. Au contraire, this rabbinic concept is full-blown within the West’s political, cultural and social avant-garde, as reflected in the repartee of the most “progressive” and “elite intellectuals” in the West:
The most discussed political book in France this autumn is Ce grand cadavre à la renverse (literally, ‘this big corpse lying on its back’), by Bernard-Henri Lévy ...He is only one of the most sophisticated proponents of the present-day widespread conservative Jewish rejection of any attempt to explain historical events by material or political causes. This rejection of analysis is central to the religious attitude toward the Holocaust, or Shoah (that is, the Nazi massacre of the Jews understood in religious terms). For the defenders of this contemporary religion, it is wrong to seek material explanations for events that must remain ‘incomprehensible’ in their magnitude...Any explanation other than eternal and recurrent hatred of the Jews may even be denounced as anti-Semitism....This is consistent with the position that there can be no explanations for anti-Semitism other than the eternal nature of anti-Semitism itself. Above all, there can be no causes for which Jews themselves, in this case the State of Israel, might be in some way responsible.
Bernard-Henri Lévy is promoting these notions of hardly in the minority when it comes to recurrent and eternal, irrational hatred of blameless Judaics. The “given law” of Halacha hi beyoduah she’Eisav soneh l’Yaakov is threaded throughout our news media and U.S. government policy. It undergirds the neocon Right and the Zionist left. It is the staple fiction of the western intelligentsia as well as the mainstream churches.
(Ib.)
Note that there's a huge difference between the racism or ideologies of tribal supremacy typical to the Talmudists (goyim), Islamists (dhimmi, provided the Shia and Sunnis haven't killed each other already) and Nazism (lesser races) though. "Conservative" Christians and "neocons" are usually utterly blind to Jewish forms of supremacy but not Islamic or nationalist/Nazi forms. So those that are educated know about the "dhimmi" concept promoted by some Islamic factions but not the concept of "goyim" promoted by some Jewish factions. Etc.
Interpretations about the goyim/dhimmi/lesser races and factions among supremacists vary, i.e. if all the millions of Muslims truly believed in "dhimmi" status and the establishment of Sharia then the world would look different than it does. Or if all Jews truly believed in the ideology of racism and supremacy promoted in the Talmud and to some degree in the Torah, then the world would look different than it does.
But it is all part of the reason that the world looks as it does:
The Washington Times reported yesterday that Nuclear Regulatory Commission workers watch porn instead of cracking down on unsafe conditions at nuclear plants.
That’s not an isolated problem …
It doesn’t matter what Congress does or doesn’t do, so long as they
stay within the boundaries and don’t begin having enough power or
influence to get themselves assassinated:
When the Federal Reserve Act was passed, the people of
these United States did not perceive that a world banking system was
being set up here. A super-state controlled by international bankers and
industrialists…acting together to enslave the world…Every effort has
been made by the Fed to conceal its powers but the truth is–the Fed has
usurped the government. –Louis McFadden, two assassination attempts
I have two great enemies, the Southern Army in front of
me and the bankers in the rear. Of the two, the one at my rear is my
greatest foe. Corporations have been enthroned, and an era of corruption
in high places will follow. The money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people
until the wealth is aggregated in the hands of a few, and the Republic
is destroyed. –Lincoln, Greenbacks and one assassination attempt
“The bank, is trying to kill me, but I will kill it!”
“You are a den of vipers and thieves. I intend to rout you out, and by
the eternal God I will rout you out.”
“I sincerely believe the banking institutions having the issuing power
of money, are more dangerous to liberty than standing armies.”
“Paper is poverty… it is only the ghost of money, and not money itself.”
–Andrew Jackson, one assassination attempt
Kind of ironic that these are the dead presidents on the ponzi these
days, huh? Even sheeple like Moseley should notice a pattern at some
point.
He handled himself well in all but one presidential debate.[/quote]
He needed help:
Mainly because he was lying, as usual.
[QUOTE]What does the teleprompter have to do with this anyway?[/QUOTE]
When you're reading the words of someone else, that's part of the script that goes along with acting.
[quote]What is so different between Obama's mannerisms in 1990 and today?[/quote]
It's
not necessary to try to define some deep change in mannerisms. It's
fair to say that he is an actor. That he's been trained how to act, etc. Plus he sometimes gets a little lost without his teleprompter
because his words often aren't even his own and sometimes it's doubtful that he even knows that what he's saying is a lie. ("You can keep your plan. It's on my teleprompter so it must be true.")
It's not a big deal to say
that presidents are liars and actors for most people. So even if a change in
mannerisms could be defined and evidence that he is an actor found in
that way, why would that matter to you?
Even if that were true there's still the small matter that the military
industrial media is linked to getting hundreds of thousands of people
killed, while Alex Jones may be rather loosely linked to the death of
one TSA agent and so forth. (As was pointed out on Metabunk recently.)
So the military industrial media that sandwiches their WMD and "war on
terror" memes between ads for Ratheon and Boeing should or better be
"demonstrably way better," given how dangerous their lack of
investigative reporting and "official sources say" mentality has been to
people around the world.
And it's not necessarily true.
Here is an example, the incubator babies hoax that was used to market the original Iraq war:
Then there were the anthrax attacks and other examples. This is part
of the reason why people shouldn't be quick to condemn AJ when he
immediately assumes that the corporate media is full of ignorant and
lazy journalists that would probably do the same "Official sources are
now leaking onto us their next marketing campaign for Murder Inc." stuff
with Syria/Iran or other important issues if they could.
The rise of the alternative media isn't such a bad thing, even if
they're often pretty lazy or sloppy and could use some debunking on
trivial and unimportant stories like "Obama is an actor" sometimes too.
It's telling that you apparently don't think that you can debunk
narratives and reports in the corporate media, as if they always settle
on the truth after they're done with the "Get it first" slop they
usually produce with "official sources."
[quote="qed, post: 76260, member: 2370"]Trained by an actor or an actor like Reagan?[/quote]
I
had a few paragraphs of a ramble on that. The basic idea being that it
probably would actually be best if the handlers and producers of the
Presidential Show by which some aspects of America are being governed
(depending on the ratings for each episode) would simply find an actual
actor to play the part of the president again. Put Rove Inc. on the
job, etc.?
Supposedly there were reports of Obama wanting to "go Bulworth" in order to try to begin acting authentic too, a few months ago.
So the idea that he's an actor or has been groomed and trained as an
actor can't be debunked, as even Obama realizes the nature of the
business he's involved in. It would be interesting to have better
investigative reporting than Jonestown with respect to what the
technical details of the process of becoming the entertainer in chief
are. But when the corporate media is busy with asking Obama what his
favorite color is and so forth, well... there you go. You're left with
Jones.
Ironic that Obama would cite an actor in a movie with
respect to going Bulworth or "acting authentic" based on the usual
political bull. The whole concept of "acting more authentic" =
oxymoron. Most people will never get it, especially the fatherless like
Obama or the pseudo-fatherless like Reagan. They have to put acting
aside in order to actually BE authentic. Because with respect to the
question of to be or not to be, the answer for actors is to act and not
to be.
Meanwhile, in the background... it doesn't really
matter which actor you pick on many of the most significant issues
having to do with when it's time for "dude looks like a" Lady Liberty to
shake her spear again due to the nature of American ponzi, geopolitics
and banksterism. But political actors are beginning to be a lagging
indicator with respect to people getting tired of the theatrical
production of more episodes of: "Watch out, there may be WMDs in their
underpants!" The ratings are getting so low at this point that
apparently over 90% aren't even willing to enter another theater of war
for the show to begin. Maybe more are finally beginning to see what the
price of admission has been in the past.
We're usually left
with entertainment, all the way around. I would often include Alex
Jones and "loose change" aspects of 911 truth and the memes that grow in
the cultural petri dish of conspiracy theory culture in that. Because
for all his ranting and raving and acting like a WWF wrestler straight
out of the theatrical production of the "NWO" or "conspiracy theories"
with Jesse Ventura... he can't actually attempt to deal with the truth
based on "It's on record." facts in many instances. 911 being one of
those instances. (I don't even watch or listen to Jones much. But with
the way everything is becoming connected he and/or his perspective
winds up showing up in newsfeeds and so forth, it's inescapable. Now
here he is taking up space on Metabunk, instead of focusing on more
serious minded "conspiracy theorists"/whistle blowers like Sibel Edmonds
or serious minded theorists like Ry Dawson and others. I wish the
alternative media and their investigative journalism was better. But it
isn't, yet... due in no small part to Jonestown and his sloppiness.)
Sorry for the ramble. At least no one on this thread seems to be denying that the president is, in fact, an actor.
The same sort of MLK incentives that whites in America had to end it. It’s curious how most people justify terrorism while playing pretend that it’s always wrong simply because it’s terrorism. Turns out that’s not the case.
Even Mandela apparently wasn’t all rainbows either, as he kept on justifying terrorism against other terrorists:
I’m not sure how a man that at one point seems to have been surrounded by Jewish “antisemitic” in some racial way. I guess antisemitism means different things to different people depending on their perceptions of “race” and understanding of rabbinic ideas in which ideologies and religions can supposedly be wrapped around or based on perceptions of race and tribe.
Ironic:
At least Netanyahu didn’t say that he wouldn’t go because Mandela was a “”"”"terrrorist.”"”"” Whatever happened to the war on terror, anyway? It seems like it’s never going to end.
Ramble:
Netanyahu on terrorism: “We tried to call ahead when we were going to blow people up. That’s the type of stuff we do, probably because we’re superior.” Arguments like that show the extent of the ideologies of supremacy and racism involved in Netanyahu’s terrorism. I’m not sure what Mandela’s excuses were for his but they could probably be as good as Netanyahu’s.
In any event, at least Mandela apparently changed his mind later or was willing to engage in the theatrical production of changing his mind with the rainbows of tolerance and all the rest of it. Ironic that he actually remained on a terrorist watch list in the Masonic/Talmudic U.S./Israeli Conglomeration Inc. of a “JudeoChristian nation” until 2008.
I wonder if he had to have his underpants checked for WMDs. There again, we all did thanks to Chertoff:
Lol. And there’s the fusion of financial terrorism, banksterism and the supposed prevention of terrorism through the financing of the warfare side of the welfare/warfare state again. At least Americans can stand back and let $afety First Inc. or representatives of Israeli corporations (That kept saying “We won’t outsource our national security.” after the Syria/Iran situation went kaput.) stop any future underwear bombers. Safety. Shew.
There are probably a few patriots left in the NSA/CIA/FBI somewhere. Here’s to hoping that they try to do their jobs WITH THEIR FELLOW AMERICANS IN MIND and not their careers in mind, not Turkish interests in mind, not Saudi interests and not even Israeli interests either. I.e. Israeli interests that apparently have more “dual citizen” representation in America than any other foreign interest, etc. The FBI/CIA/NSA need to do their actual jobs like Sibel Edmonds and other whistle blowers have been trying to… etc. It’s already having an effect on the corrupt degenerates within the oligarchical structures being produced by the Federal Reserve Inc. and the banking cartel. (I.e. structures that tend to put foreign interests and global corporations before the interests of the American people, etc.)