I read the history of the Nazis and so on, and it's pretty Evil. But often the stories of the American Republic bear the same pattern...
Mother arrested for attempting to intervene in her 14-year old's decision to have abortion
"A Southern Illinois woman was arrested last week (March 17) after trying to intervene on behalf of her 14-year old daughter's effort to have an abortion. The girl was allegedly taken to an abortion clinic by the mother of the man allegedly to have impregnated the 14-year old.
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She took a seat near the main desk and said, “I was told I could not prove my daughter was there so I began calling her name. A medical tech at the clinic told me , ‘It’s your daughter’s rights, it’s her body. You have no rights.’”After continuing to call out her daughter’s name and telling her “don’t do it,” authorities were called and the mother was arrested.
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As the police were putting the mother in the squad car, she was crying out, “Please, please, help me...my daughter is in there.” Michaels said, “Exactly one hour later at 10:35 a.m., the 14-year old emerged from the clinic looking disheveled. The 14-year old told us that employees kept her in a quiet room until the procedure was performed and she was told that her mother had left.” Employees assured this girl on her departure, “No-one will ever know you were here, we’ll bury your records.”
In the meantime, the woman who had taken the girl for the abortion was slipped out the back door of the clinic.
The police in the community in which the family lives allegedly told the girl's mom that they couldn't intervene despite her making a charge that her daughter had been raped (by statute) because the charge was stale--7 weeks after the incident. They did tell the girl's mom that, while she had no right to stop the abortion, she did have a right to go into the clinic and speak to her daughter.[....]"
Story found via Red State Law, I doubt I can find a single case like this reported in the Old Press. But they do happen, often. The modern silence is quite a change from reporting on the Hideous Vice done in the past.
Then there are American "liberals" who bring this sort of situation about with their smarmy rhetoric and moral vanity about how they are defenders of "choice." They quite often seem to want to help criminals, rapists, pornographers, abortionists and the like with their choices, in the end. They lecture about "choice" and "rights" and manage to come down to a lack of judgment that favors the pervert who has sex with children or the abortionist who makes their living by ripping apart little bodies. For they are just nobodies to those who will not see. There are none so blind as those who will not see.
They all seem to feel tolerant and loving in their lack of judgment. It seems to make liberals feel good that they do not impose their views on anyone. So here is a story to make liberals feel good, where "choice" ruled and no one's views were imposed....for a mother's love for her daughter is such an imposing imposition!
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well, not suprized but appalled and sad...
That poor confused 14 yr old.
Not surprising...as Americana quite a decadent culture when it comes to sex, and a culture's sexual ethic seems to reverberate through it. There are plenty of other teenagers like her in the same situation with older men. One sociologist noted that some men sense a vulnerability among the fatherless. Most girls in that situation are in some sense fatherless.
I suppose one could say that fatherhood drives down business for abortionists.
So someone that's 14 is actually allowed to make a decision like that? How do they try and justify that?
Nicole
In various European nations the age of consent/"choice" is 14, even as low as twelve.
How do you think that happens?
I don't know.
N
You have to prove that you are eighteen in order to get any kind of piercing. Or you have to have parental consent. For example, when I went to have my cartilage in my ear pierced, I didn't bring my liscense with me so they wouldn't do it, and I am 22!
As opposed to an abortion, an invassive surgical procedure with many dangerous side effects which girls as young as 12 can recieve without parental consent.
~Bertie
"I don't know."
That's probably for the best.
Is ignorance really bliss?
My new quote is "innocence is bliss" :-) but it doesn't take ignorance to be innocent.. or does it?
N
"My new quote is "innocence is bliss" :-) but it doesn't take ignorance to be innocent.. or does it?"
It's something to think about.
There is the knowledge of Good and Evil. The Way to know Evil without being evil is by the Word, as language itself is at the root of civilization. That is the cultivation of culture through civilization typical to all civilizations that rise up from the earth.
But some gardeners have always wanted to know Evil by being evil, the rest is history.
We had the knowledge of Good and Evil by God's word from the moment it was spoken. Eating it, experiencing it, is another matter. Not that matter is Good or Evil. Only that one of the scripts of Scripture seems to be that it is evil to place the physical before the spiritual. Perhaps that is what is evil, making people slaves to Evil.
"Making," as if something is created...no, I suppose it is more like subverting or perverting, a subversion and then perversion of the true Version.
But back to the point,
"...it doesn't take ignorance to be innocent...
What's the difference between being childlike and being childish?
"What's the difference between being childlike and being childish?"
Both refer to simplisticty, but Childish is about immaturity, Childlike is about innocence.
Are you making a point are you just musing? I can't figure out your point so I can't really reply (except for the question on definition which was probably rhetoric anyway!).
N
"...Childish is about immaturity, Childlike is about innocence."
...aren't all children immature?
Yes, but when we are talking about spefically the words childish and childlike, one relates more to the innocence aspect of childhood and one relates to the immaturity aspect.
What thoughts do you have to succeed the definitions? Would you like to give me your definitions and proceed from there?
N
"Would you like to give me your definitions and proceed from there?"
I think we have drawn from the well of language all the wisdom stored in it about that.
Suffice it to say that decadent or declining civilizations tend toward being childish. Ironically, there comes to be no room for childhood and childlike innocence in them.
Studies show that children of divorce mature physically much faster than those in stable families. If there is a stable and secure social and spiritual environment, their development is stable.
A small example,
Compare most homeschoolers or private school children to those of many public highschools, the private school children are typically more physically childlike.
interesting.
N
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