They have survived countless persecutions, pogroms, and the greatest mass-murder in History…
Do you believe that the Holocaust was a sacrifice made by fire of the
sacred six million and a right of return to the Promised Land emanated
from the smoke? Why do you suppose that six million (And apparently it
has to be six, to be a sacred holocaust.) Jews were reported as dying in
pogroms long before Hitler came to power?
It’s a complex world. But I think your supposed “razor” might need
to be applied to some of the Jewish stories and tribal mythologies based
on sacred numbers that you seem to accept at face value.
And I must emphasize that anti-Semitism is the purvey of weaker
minds. It takes much effort to understand History and its complexities,
and that is simply too much for many to employ.
Seriously?
Then there’s this: ...defining Communism in Russia, and serving the cause of freedom and democracy in the American senate.
The only way that celebrating the venting of Jewish hatred against
the goyim when they “defined Communism in Russia” would make sense is if
you adhere to the rabbinic idea that Jewish life is more sacred than
the lives of goyim/cattle. Therefore, when they have a sacrifice of the
sacred six million (cabala, etc.) that relegates the lives of all the
goyim killed in Russia to meaninglessness. The Holodomor doesn’t matter
in the light of “the” Holocaust because they were not superior, as you
imagine Jews to be.
But it seems to me that’s as foolish as following along with rabbinic
thought to the point of believing in the tribal nature of human
sacrifice/holocausts in the first place. And it’s doubtful that many of
the Jewish individuals incorporated in rabbinic stories of that nature
would agree, anyway. Perhaps a sense of tribal superiority is all well
and good, until the tribe decides that you need to be sacrificed while
they sign off on the Transfer Agreement with other people that fancy
themselves as being the chosen racists of God.
I don’t get it. How do these Jewish stories about themselves that
you’re apparently repeating, even square in your mind? You’re
celebrating their prominent role in creating the actual greatest form of
mass murder (Communism) in the history of mankind, yet simultaneously
want to keep them as eternal victims of the entire (????) world based on
the Holocaust? 16 September 2014, 10:39 am
mynym:
You may also get “tired” very quickly if we tried to debate. But I’m all for it. Open forums, freedom and all that. 16 September 2014, 10:41 am
Mynym
33 million died under Stalin’s purges. 100 million Chinese died during
Mao’s Great Leap Forward. What is special about the Holocaust is the
mechanization of genocide and its systematic application. The detail of
the killing machine developed by the Nazis as codified as the Wannsee
Conference in 1942 was unprecedented and remains so 70 years later.
As for Communism my point was that the doctrine shaped world history
just as the rise of American capitalism did, and Jews were involved in
both. To some that means that fact merely adds to the menace of the
Jewish people; to me it just shows they tend to punch above their weight
class. As for Communism itself, having used Marx’s Das Kapital as a
sleep aid, I can assure you that I am as anti-Communist as the next guy.
As for Jewish superiority, show me a group that doesn’t feel superior to others. 16 September 2014, 11:23 am
mynym:
As for Communism my point was that the doctrine shaped world
history just as the rise of American capitalism did, and Jews were
involved in both.
Indeed: Mr. Schiff has always used his wealth and his influence
in the best interests of his people. He financed the enemies of
autocratic Russia and used his financial influence to keep Russia away
from the money market of the United States. Jewish Communal Register of
New York City. (1918). p. 1018-1019 Etc. To some that means that fact merely adds to the menace of the Jewish people…
Not really, apparently many that are taught the racial supremacy
promoted in the Talmud create secular versions of the same old stuff.
So they form ethnic networks no matter which side of the Right/Left
paradigm that they let the public/goyim see. Soros is another example,
he doesn’t actually do anything significant about the forms of Jewish
supremacy, ethnic colonization and segregation practiced in Israel. But
apparently there’s always money to be spent on defeating racism among
the goyim. Donald Sterling is another example and he honestly doesn’t
even get it because “It’s my culture.” What culture? ...to me it just shows they tend to punch above their weight class.
Now you’re back to justifying Jewish supremacy. All of them? Some?
Is that because of their race, religion… or a racist religion of
tribalism above all others? Who are you talking about? As for Communism itself, having used Marx’s Das Kapital as a sleep
aid, I can assure you that I am as anti-Communist as the next guy.
That’s fine. Ironically the people that created Communism probably
wouldn’t really care if you’re anti-Communist. As I recall, Moses Hess
himself predicted that it would be discarded in favor of Zionism or an
open form of Jewish supremacy. What they really tend to care about, is
that you keep on believing in their national/tribal myths based on human
sacrifice and that you keep on arguing that they’re superior to the
goyim. As their traditions and their secular versions of the same old
things tends to teach. As for Jewish superiority, show me a group that doesn’t feel superior to others.
That’s true. But show me another group that you will argue is superior to others.
It would seem that you are the evidence. But it really depends on
what you count as superior. Even if you’re arguing that they’re more
intelligent and not just hypocrites working as a tribe to forbid racism
and ethnocentrism* to all the goyim while practicing it themselves, what
if integrity was more important than greater intelligence that you seem
to be imagining that they have?
*E.g… “Give America the tired, the poor… the wretched refuse, just a
bunch of trash that wants to be free. Just send the trash over there.
But give me my own, ethnic and tribal state!” paraphrasing Emma
Lazarus “All these goy need to learn how to integrate so let’s help
create the NAACP! But, uh, our own tribal
culture is fine. Also, we forbid interracial marriage.” Or whoever
that Washington Post guy was recently: “Interracial marriage, that must
make American goyim sick! Uh, wait… I guess it only makes me sick
because I come from a culture of racial supremacy.” Etc. I could look
all the examples up and document them. Because as Max Blumenthal might
say of the way similar attitudes have been institutionalized in Israel,
these are artifact of a rather “peculiar” culture and perspective on the
world and the tribes/goyim of the world. 16 September 2014, 12:28 pm
mynym:
By the way, I am not a holocaust denier. Debating a Holocaust Denier
But I do deny the rabbinic framework by which atrocities committed in
a World War are perceived as a form of human sacrifice, made by fire,
that justify the creation of a state that was already forming due to the
Transfer Agreement among those that perceived themselves as the chosen
racists of Evolution and many that perceived themselves as the chosen
racists of God. (Or failing God, back to evolution again…) 16 September 2014, 12:38 pm
Sara Noble:
Blame the UN and the British if you don’t like Israel. Israelis
took a desert that was no one’s state and made it into something
special. They protect the Christian and Muslim holy land. Look at what’s
around them. Would you rather Israel go back to the rathole it was –
that’s rhetorical
What’s wrong with Jews thinking they are exceptional and striving to
live up to that standard? You obviously think you’re exceptional.
I think you’re argument is against liberal ideology not Jews. Put
that anger where it belongs – against the hateful ideologies destroying
our Republic – your focus is askew. 17 September 2014, 8:38 am
mynym:
I thought the Zionists tried to bomb and false flag the British in
the Lavon Affair and so on while they were in the process of ethnically
cleansing people to establish a “Jewish State.” It’s nothing special,
states have often been formed based on terrorism. And if you have the
power of a hegemonic Empire at your disposal as well as the ability to
take over the water supplies and so on, then it’s easy to play pretend
about pooping out gardens in deserts. When in fact, goyim could also do
that.
Talmudists spit on Christians in the holy land while rabbis write
tracts about how best to keep the slaughter of Muslim goyim kosher.
What’s around them isn’t any better. Although people living in a
Talmudic/rabbinic type of culture would create the same or perhaps a
worse type of civilization than others if they were not propped up by
the American Empire. (E.g., the Soviet experience with a totalitarian
culture of legalism, centralized power, secular versions of rabbinic
bureaucracies, the issue of Tribe/Party membership, etc.) Much of what
you think of as liberalism or being “politically” correct was created by
the Frankfurt School in order to degrade and dominate the goyim based
on identity politics and the tribalism that they understood so well.
Not that they see it that way. After all, they are merely defending
themselves from the dangerous and utterly randomly “antisemitic” goyim.
Because degrading and monetizing people (lend to the goyim at
interest,etc.) or justifying racial and tribal supremacy is not the
reason that people, all around the world and throughout the centuries
usually get upset with Jews. No, that’s not it. It couldn’t be Jewish
behavior, cultivated by the Talmud and secular versions (“We’re more
intelligent. We’re pooping gardens here.”) of the same type of racial
supremacy. So it comes from the ether. So the goyim need a Talmudic
psychologist like Freud to tell them what’s wrong with them, it would
seem. You obviously think you’re exceptional.
Why do you say that?
Would you all defend me as exceptional and supposedly superior, to
the same extent that you seem intent on arguing that Jews are special?
Look at some of your apparent arguments again. Correct me if I’m wrong
but: “The Holocaust is special and different from all the other mass
murder that’s gone on in the world because it was mechanized. So I
haven’t actually absorbed a rabbinic form of racial supremacy from my
culture by osmosis.” Or “Jews took a desert and pooped out some gardens
there, therefore they’re special.”
And now, apparently: “Well, don’t you think that you’re special? So they get to think that they’re special too.”
Even if that were the case and I’m not sure it is. There would still
be a large difference between me and Jews that pose on both the Right
and the Left. I do not propose multiculturalism for the goyim/tribes
(the trash, from some Jewish perspectives) or support open borders for
the goyim and closed borders for Jews in a “Jewish State” to the same
extent that they have. I’d like to think that I couldn’t be that
hypocritical. I could be wrong. If you believe that the entire world
(the goyim/tribes) is basically out to get you (the Jew, the chosen
tribe) for no reason then it’s probably possible to come to some rather
peculiar and hypocritical conclusions. After all, you can’t conclude
that your own behavior has anything to do with it, so you’d be left with
trying to manipulate and police the goyim/world. (Whether as a Soviet
killing millions by starvation in the Holodomor… or a neocon or a
neoliberal like Madeline Albright saying that the deaths by starvation of 500,000 Iraqi children was “worth it.”) 17 September 2014, 12:47 pm
mynym:
Blame the UN and the British if you don’t like Israel.
This might be simpler. What do any of you actually blame Israelis
and Jews for? Not the UN or the British, etc… even if there is plenty
of blame to go around.
Because blaming and yes, “scapegoating” the world/goyim for pretty
much everything while refusing to blame Jews for anything (E.g. the role
of their ethnic hatred and international culture and tribal networks in
Communism.) may be something that you’ve absorbed from a culture of
Jewish supremacy by osmosis.
Why do I write “Jewish supremacy”? Look above and reread some of your own arguments… and there’s the evidence, right here. 17 September 2014, 12:52 pm
Ah, what we have here is a sophisticated Jew hater! His
schtick is more interesting than most, because it is addressed to
non-Jews who admire Jews and based on the supposed ‘contempt’ Jews have
for non-Jews.What he has is a monomania, where every issue can be
explained by The EEEEVIL JOOOOS.
But do you think you’re unique, and that I haven’t seen cute lil’
snowflakes like you before? Your type goes back to Haman, lying to the
Persian King about that ‘alien people’ who ‘think themselves superior
and do not respect you or your laws.’
I also admire (to a point) the trick of imputing to people beliefs they don’t have and attacking those beliefs. Slick!
I could certainly prove that Israel didn’t engage in wholesale ethnic
cleansing, that it has a firm basis in international law including
Judea and Samaria, that Israel is the only country in the Middle East
where the Christian population is growing and their beliefs are
respected. But why bother? Why should I feel any need to apologize for
Jewish survival and success to a warped individual like you? I’m only
here now because someone requested me to weigh in, and maybe some of the
others haven’t smelled your particular kind of stench before.
You even bring in Madeline Albright, a woman who was born a Jew but
was never aware of it and whom was raised Catholic all her life as a
proof of ‘Jewish’ perfidy.And she’s no friend of Israel, btw.
Gang, it’s actually useless to debate someone like this. In this
deconstructionist age, people make up their own facts, and there are
endless ‘sources’ to draw on simply because there’s money and notoriety
in it. To paraphrase the old saying, bullsh*t not only talks but walks
these days.
Now here’s an interesting question for this bigot. Why do you feel so threatened by Jewish success and survival? Jews getting into your peanut butter sandwiches lately?
Israel stays. Deal with it. 17 September 2014, 2:39 pm
mynym:
...it is addressed to non-Jews who admire Jews and based on the supposed ‘contempt’ Jews have for non-Jews.
Some do, some do not… but most people that follow rabbinic thinking
and secular versions of Jewish supremacy do have contempt for the goyim.
Google: “not worth a Jewish fingernail” “sit like effendi and eat”
“emanate from Satanic spheres” and so on. What he has is a monomania, where every issue can be explained by The EEEEVIL JOOOOS.
Not really. Your type goes back to Haman, lying to the Persian King about that
‘alien people’ who ‘think themselves superior and do not respect you or
your laws.’
Look at Jewish culture again, apparently they are prone to
preemptively murdering people based on conspiracy theories and their
racist knowledge of what type of people the goyim are. These days,
apparently they generally want to kill or dominate Persians again based
on preemptively murdering people. On a side note, people can Google a
recipe for mock cannibalism and Haman’s ears: (Hamantashen (Haman’s
Ears) Cookie Recipe | SparkRecipes) (Eating Jewish: Oznei Haman (Haman’s
Ears) | Jewish …), etc.
That is as silly as believing in the virtues of human sacrifice based
on cabala and trying to put goyim in jail for criticizing tribal
mythologies. I also admire (to a point) the trick of imputing to people beliefs they don’t have and attacking those beliefs. Slick!
Next you’ll be saying that Haman’s ears and celebrating Purim are
antisemitic conspiracy theories. It gets a little ridiculous.
Seriously. How did babies wind up with herpes thanks to Jewish rabbis?
That’s just another antisemitic conspiracy theory about Jewish blood
rituals… no doubt. Google: “rabbis, herpes” And then they’re off to
engage in mock cannibalism, apparently. One would think that people
supposedly superior and more intelligent than everyone would come up
with better forms of culture than this. ... Israel is the only country in the Middle East where the Christian population is growing and their beliefs are respected.
Google: “Israelis, spitting” (Christians in Jerusalem want Jews to stop spitting on them) Etc. You even bring in Madeline Albright, a woman who was born a Jew but was never aware of it and whom was raised Catholic…
Rules and perceptions about tribal beliefs tend to vary, look at the
original post, it’s not clear what the rules are. Google: “Cohen, not
Jewish enough” In this deconstructionist age, people make up their own facts, and there are endless ‘sources’ to draw…
Mainly because people are celebrating eating Haman’s ears based on
the preemptive murder of perceived enemies of the tribe based on
conspiracy theories, etc. People are beginning to leave an electronic
footprint for everything that they do. The fact that Jewish blood
rituals and national myths and their murderous attitude toward perceived
enemies and so on is now leaving electronic footprints has little to do
with some new ability to supposedly “make up facts.” The facts are
what they are. Now here’s an interesting question for this bigot. Why do you feel so threatened by Jewish success and survival?
I don’t. That seems to be projection. The success of Jews like
Einstein, Israel Shahak, Norman Finkelstein, Max Blumenthal and others
that do not seem to be into racism and tribalism to the same extent as
anyone that takes the national myth of Haman seriously do not threaten
the goyim. But there are others, like the racial supremacists of
Chabad, that are a threat. Jews getting into your peanut butter sandwiches lately?
Perhaps you should create a new tradition in which you shape the peanut butter like ears and imagine that they are mine? Israel stays. Deal with it.
Shrug. I wonder if the “Jewish State” will stay. Or if it should
stay as some sort of peculiar ethnocracy or religious state… anymore
than an “Islamic State” or a “Christian State” should be formed.
It is curious the way the so-called New Atheists and say, Sam Harris
and Bill Maher will endlessly mock religion. Yet they have little to
say about rabbinic traditions and the Jewish religion. But as far as
Bill Maher goes, I guess babies with herpes isn’t a joke. Or is it?
Anyway, with respect to supposedly just making facts up… I must be a
powerful Haman to get Google to return the results that it will return
based on those searches. So let me know if you ever get around to mock
cannibalism and eating my ears, symbolically. Fun times. 17 September 2014, 6:56 pm
I guess I didn’t make myself clear.
People like you can always find fellow wack jobs who will
write anything they can to justify their pathetic existence, get some
attention and earn a little coin. I notice you mention some of them in
this little screed. You must think you’re the first to throw this lame
garbage out there!
One example,just for giggles – you obviously know zip about Haman,
and that had nothing to do with ‘Jewish domination of the Persians’.
And the humentashen? Those represent his three cornered hat, not his
ears, buffoon. Why else do you think they’re shaped that way?
Google this, Jew Hater. Obviously you feel threatened by
Jewish success, as opposed to your own failure and intellectual
bankruptcy. That’s a common psychological reaction, (envy is a root
cause of Jew Hatred) and with therapy I think in time you might
overcome it, but I’d charge you at least $150 per hour – payable in
advance.
And Israel’s survival? So far, they’ve managed pretty well when the
odds were a lot worse than they are today. That in itself ought to tell
you something about G-d’s intentions, but of course a brilliant guy like
you knows better. Enjoy watching the Jewish Nation thrive. I hope it
makes you even crazier than you are now.
And here’s something else you can Google. I have no interest
in apologizing for or ‘debating’ Jewish success and survival. It speaks
for itself.Read that again and take notes.
I don’t care what you think, have no interest in convincing you of
anything, and really don’t care whether you wake up in the morning. You
mean nothing to me.
mynym:
They have survived countless persecutions, pogroms, and the greatest mass-murder in History…Do you believe that the Holocaust was a sacrifice made by fire of the sacred six million and a right of return to the Promised Land emanated from the smoke? Why do you suppose that six million (And apparently it has to be six, to be a sacred holocaust.) Jews were reported as dying in pogroms long before Hitler came to power?
It’s a complex world. But I think your supposed “razor” might need to be applied to some of the Jewish stories and tribal mythologies based on sacred numbers that you seem to accept at face value.
And I must emphasize that anti-Semitism is the purvey of weaker minds. It takes much effort to understand History and its complexities, and that is simply too much for many to employ.
Seriously?
Then there’s this:
...defining Communism in Russia, and serving the cause of freedom and democracy in the American senate.
The only way that celebrating the venting of Jewish hatred against the goyim when they “defined Communism in Russia” would make sense is if you adhere to the rabbinic idea that Jewish life is more sacred than the lives of goyim/cattle. Therefore, when they have a sacrifice of the sacred six million (cabala, etc.) that relegates the lives of all the goyim killed in Russia to meaninglessness. The Holodomor doesn’t matter in the light of “the” Holocaust because they were not superior, as you imagine Jews to be.
But it seems to me that’s as foolish as following along with rabbinic thought to the point of believing in the tribal nature of human sacrifice/holocausts in the first place. And it’s doubtful that many of the Jewish individuals incorporated in rabbinic stories of that nature would agree, anyway. Perhaps a sense of tribal superiority is all well and good, until the tribe decides that you need to be sacrificed while they sign off on the Transfer Agreement with other people that fancy themselves as being the chosen racists of God.
I don’t get it. How do these Jewish stories about themselves that you’re apparently repeating, even square in your mind? You’re celebrating their prominent role in creating the actual greatest form of mass murder (Communism) in the history of mankind, yet simultaneously want to keep them as eternal victims of the entire (????) world based on the Holocaust?
16 September 2014, 10:39 am
mynym:
You may also get “tired” very quickly if we tried to debate. But I’m all for it. Open forums, freedom and all that.16 September 2014, 10:41 am
Scott Kirwin:
Mynym33 million died under Stalin’s purges. 100 million Chinese died during Mao’s Great Leap Forward. What is special about the Holocaust is the mechanization of genocide and its systematic application. The detail of the killing machine developed by the Nazis as codified as the Wannsee Conference in 1942 was unprecedented and remains so 70 years later.
As for Communism my point was that the doctrine shaped world history just as the rise of American capitalism did, and Jews were involved in both. To some that means that fact merely adds to the menace of the Jewish people; to me it just shows they tend to punch above their weight class. As for Communism itself, having used Marx’s Das Kapital as a sleep aid, I can assure you that I am as anti-Communist as the next guy.
As for Jewish superiority, show me a group that doesn’t feel superior to others.
16 September 2014, 11:23 am
mynym:
As for Communism my point was that the doctrine shaped world history just as the rise of American capitalism did, and Jews were involved in both.Indeed: Mr. Schiff has always used his wealth and his influence in the best interests of his people. He financed the enemies of autocratic Russia and used his financial influence to keep Russia away from the money market of the United States. Jewish Communal Register of New York City. (1918). p. 1018-1019 Etc.
To some that means that fact merely adds to the menace of the Jewish people…
Not really, apparently many that are taught the racial supremacy promoted in the Talmud create secular versions of the same old stuff. So they form ethnic networks no matter which side of the Right/Left paradigm that they let the public/goyim see. Soros is another example, he doesn’t actually do anything significant about the forms of Jewish supremacy, ethnic colonization and segregation practiced in Israel. But apparently there’s always money to be spent on defeating racism among the goyim. Donald Sterling is another example and he honestly doesn’t even get it because “It’s my culture.” What culture?
...to me it just shows they tend to punch above their weight class.
Now you’re back to justifying Jewish supremacy. All of them? Some? Is that because of their race, religion… or a racist religion of tribalism above all others? Who are you talking about?
As for Communism itself, having used Marx’s Das Kapital as a sleep aid, I can assure you that I am as anti-Communist as the next guy.
That’s fine. Ironically the people that created Communism probably wouldn’t really care if you’re anti-Communist. As I recall, Moses Hess himself predicted that it would be discarded in favor of Zionism or an open form of Jewish supremacy. What they really tend to care about, is that you keep on believing in their national/tribal myths based on human sacrifice and that you keep on arguing that they’re superior to the goyim. As their traditions and their secular versions of the same old things tends to teach.
As for Jewish superiority, show me a group that doesn’t feel superior to others.
That’s true. But show me another group that you will argue is superior to others.
It would seem that you are the evidence. But it really depends on what you count as superior. Even if you’re arguing that they’re more intelligent and not just hypocrites working as a tribe to forbid racism and ethnocentrism* to all the goyim while practicing it themselves, what if integrity was more important than greater intelligence that you seem to be imagining that they have?
*E.g… “Give America the tired, the poor… the wretched refuse, just a bunch of trash that wants to be free. Just send the trash over there. But give me my own, ethnic and tribal state!” paraphrasing Emma Lazarus “All these goy need to learn how to integrate so let’s help create the NAACP! But, uh, our own tribal culture is fine. Also, we forbid interracial marriage.” Or whoever that Washington Post guy was recently: “Interracial marriage, that must make American goyim sick! Uh, wait… I guess it only makes me sick because I come from a culture of racial supremacy.” Etc. I could look all the examples up and document them. Because as Max Blumenthal might say of the way similar attitudes have been institutionalized in Israel, these are artifact of a rather “peculiar” culture and perspective on the world and the tribes/goyim of the world.
16 September 2014, 12:28 pm
mynym:
By the way, I am not a holocaust denier. Debating a Holocaust DenierBut I do deny the rabbinic framework by which atrocities committed in a World War are perceived as a form of human sacrifice, made by fire, that justify the creation of a state that was already forming due to the Transfer Agreement among those that perceived themselves as the chosen racists of Evolution and many that perceived themselves as the chosen racists of God. (Or failing God, back to evolution again…)
16 September 2014, 12:38 pm
Sara Noble:
Blame the UN and the British if you don’t like Israel. Israelis took a desert that was no one’s state and made it into something special. They protect the Christian and Muslim holy land. Look at what’s around them. Would you rather Israel go back to the rathole it was – that’s rhetoricalWhat’s wrong with Jews thinking they are exceptional and striving to live up to that standard? You obviously think you’re exceptional.
I think you’re argument is against liberal ideology not Jews. Put that anger where it belongs – against the hateful ideologies destroying our Republic – your focus is askew.
17 September 2014, 8:38 am
mynym:
I thought the Zionists tried to bomb and false flag the British in the Lavon Affair and so on while they were in the process of ethnically cleansing people to establish a “Jewish State.” It’s nothing special, states have often been formed based on terrorism. And if you have the power of a hegemonic Empire at your disposal as well as the ability to take over the water supplies and so on, then it’s easy to play pretend about pooping out gardens in deserts. When in fact, goyim could also do that.Talmudists spit on Christians in the holy land while rabbis write tracts about how best to keep the slaughter of Muslim goyim kosher. What’s around them isn’t any better. Although people living in a Talmudic/rabbinic type of culture would create the same or perhaps a worse type of civilization than others if they were not propped up by the American Empire. (E.g., the Soviet experience with a totalitarian culture of legalism, centralized power, secular versions of rabbinic bureaucracies, the issue of Tribe/Party membership, etc.) Much of what you think of as liberalism or being “politically” correct was created by the Frankfurt School in order to degrade and dominate the goyim based on identity politics and the tribalism that they understood so well. Not that they see it that way. After all, they are merely defending themselves from the dangerous and utterly randomly “antisemitic” goyim. Because degrading and monetizing people (lend to the goyim at interest,etc.) or justifying racial and tribal supremacy is not the reason that people, all around the world and throughout the centuries usually get upset with Jews. No, that’s not it. It couldn’t be Jewish behavior, cultivated by the Talmud and secular versions (“We’re more intelligent. We’re pooping gardens here.”) of the same type of racial supremacy. So it comes from the ether. So the goyim need a Talmudic psychologist like Freud to tell them what’s wrong with them, it would seem.
You obviously think you’re exceptional.
Why do you say that?
Would you all defend me as exceptional and supposedly superior, to the same extent that you seem intent on arguing that Jews are special? Look at some of your apparent arguments again. Correct me if I’m wrong but: “The Holocaust is special and different from all the other mass murder that’s gone on in the world because it was mechanized. So I haven’t actually absorbed a rabbinic form of racial supremacy from my culture by osmosis.” Or “Jews took a desert and pooped out some gardens there, therefore they’re special.”
And now, apparently: “Well, don’t you think that you’re special? So they get to think that they’re special too.”
Even if that were the case and I’m not sure it is. There would still be a large difference between me and Jews that pose on both the Right and the Left. I do not propose multiculturalism for the goyim/tribes (the trash, from some Jewish perspectives) or support open borders for the goyim and closed borders for Jews in a “Jewish State” to the same extent that they have. I’d like to think that I couldn’t be that hypocritical. I could be wrong. If you believe that the entire world (the goyim/tribes) is basically out to get you (the Jew, the chosen tribe) for no reason then it’s probably possible to come to some rather peculiar and hypocritical conclusions. After all, you can’t conclude that your own behavior has anything to do with it, so you’d be left with trying to manipulate and police the goyim/world. (Whether as a Soviet killing millions by starvation in the Holodomor… or a neocon or a neoliberal like Madeline Albright saying that the deaths by starvation of 500,000 Iraqi children was “worth it.”)
17 September 2014, 12:47 pm
mynym:
Blame the UN and the British if you don’t like Israel.This might be simpler. What do any of you actually blame Israelis and Jews for? Not the UN or the British, etc… even if there is plenty of blame to go around.
Because blaming and yes, “scapegoating” the world/goyim for pretty much everything while refusing to blame Jews for anything (E.g. the role of their ethnic hatred and international culture and tribal networks in Communism.) may be something that you’ve absorbed from a culture of Jewish supremacy by osmosis.
Why do I write “Jewish supremacy”? Look above and reread some of your own arguments… and there’s the evidence, right here.
17 September 2014, 12:52 pm
Rob Miller:
Ah, what we have here is a sophisticated Jew hater! His schtick is more interesting than most, because it is addressed to non-Jews who admire Jews and based on the supposed ‘contempt’ Jews have for non-Jews.What he has is a monomania, where every issue can be explained by The EEEEVIL JOOOOS.But do you think you’re unique, and that I haven’t seen cute lil’ snowflakes like you before? Your type goes back to Haman, lying to the Persian King about that ‘alien people’ who ‘think themselves superior and do not respect you or your laws.’
I also admire (to a point) the trick of imputing to people beliefs they don’t have and attacking those beliefs. Slick!
I could certainly prove that Israel didn’t engage in wholesale ethnic cleansing, that it has a firm basis in international law including Judea and Samaria, that Israel is the only country in the Middle East where the Christian population is growing and their beliefs are respected. But why bother? Why should I feel any need to apologize for Jewish survival and success to a warped individual like you? I’m only here now because someone requested me to weigh in, and maybe some of the others haven’t smelled your particular kind of stench before.
You even bring in Madeline Albright, a woman who was born a Jew but was never aware of it and whom was raised Catholic all her life as a proof of ‘Jewish’ perfidy.And she’s no friend of Israel, btw.
Gang, it’s actually useless to debate someone like this. In this deconstructionist age, people make up their own facts, and there are endless ‘sources’ to draw on simply because there’s money and notoriety in it. To paraphrase the old saying, bullsh*t not only talks but walks these days.
Now here’s an interesting question for this bigot. Why do you feel so threatened by Jewish success and survival? Jews getting into your peanut butter sandwiches lately?
Israel stays. Deal with it.
17 September 2014, 2:39 pm
mynym:
...it is addressed to non-Jews who admire Jews and based on the supposed ‘contempt’ Jews have for non-Jews.Some do, some do not… but most people that follow rabbinic thinking and secular versions of Jewish supremacy do have contempt for the goyim. Google: “not worth a Jewish fingernail” “sit like effendi and eat” “emanate from Satanic spheres” and so on.
What he has is a monomania, where every issue can be explained by The EEEEVIL JOOOOS.
Not really.
Your type goes back to Haman, lying to the Persian King about that ‘alien people’ who ‘think themselves superior and do not respect you or your laws.’
Look at Jewish culture again, apparently they are prone to preemptively murdering people based on conspiracy theories and their racist knowledge of what type of people the goyim are. These days, apparently they generally want to kill or dominate Persians again based on preemptively murdering people. On a side note, people can Google a recipe for mock cannibalism and Haman’s ears: (Hamantashen (Haman’s Ears) Cookie Recipe | SparkRecipes) (Eating Jewish: Oznei Haman (Haman’s Ears) | Jewish …), etc.
That is as silly as believing in the virtues of human sacrifice based on cabala and trying to put goyim in jail for criticizing tribal mythologies.
I also admire (to a point) the trick of imputing to people beliefs they don’t have and attacking those beliefs. Slick!
Next you’ll be saying that Haman’s ears and celebrating Purim are antisemitic conspiracy theories. It gets a little ridiculous. Seriously. How did babies wind up with herpes thanks to Jewish rabbis? That’s just another antisemitic conspiracy theory about Jewish blood rituals… no doubt. Google: “rabbis, herpes” And then they’re off to engage in mock cannibalism, apparently. One would think that people supposedly superior and more intelligent than everyone would come up with better forms of culture than this.
... Israel is the only country in the Middle East where the Christian population is growing and their beliefs are respected.
Google: “Israelis, spitting” (Christians in Jerusalem want Jews to stop spitting on them) Etc.
You even bring in Madeline Albright, a woman who was born a Jew but was never aware of it and whom was raised Catholic…
Rules and perceptions about tribal beliefs tend to vary, look at the original post, it’s not clear what the rules are. Google: “Cohen, not Jewish enough”
In this deconstructionist age, people make up their own facts, and there are endless ‘sources’ to draw…
Mainly because people are celebrating eating Haman’s ears based on the preemptive murder of perceived enemies of the tribe based on conspiracy theories, etc. People are beginning to leave an electronic footprint for everything that they do. The fact that Jewish blood rituals and national myths and their murderous attitude toward perceived enemies and so on is now leaving electronic footprints has little to do with some new ability to supposedly “make up facts.” The facts are what they are.
Now here’s an interesting question for this bigot. Why do you feel so threatened by Jewish success and survival?
I don’t. That seems to be projection. The success of Jews like Einstein, Israel Shahak, Norman Finkelstein, Max Blumenthal and others that do not seem to be into racism and tribalism to the same extent as anyone that takes the national myth of Haman seriously do not threaten the goyim. But there are others, like the racial supremacists of Chabad, that are a threat.
Jews getting into your peanut butter sandwiches lately?
Perhaps you should create a new tradition in which you shape the peanut butter like ears and imagine that they are mine?
Israel stays. Deal with it.
Shrug. I wonder if the “Jewish State” will stay. Or if it should stay as some sort of peculiar ethnocracy or religious state… anymore than an “Islamic State” or a “Christian State” should be formed.
It is curious the way the so-called New Atheists and say, Sam Harris and Bill Maher will endlessly mock religion. Yet they have little to say about rabbinic traditions and the Jewish religion. But as far as Bill Maher goes, I guess babies with herpes isn’t a joke. Or is it?
Anyway, with respect to supposedly just making facts up… I must be a powerful Haman to get Google to return the results that it will return based on those searches. So let me know if you ever get around to mock cannibalism and eating my ears, symbolically. Fun times.
17 September 2014, 6:56 pm
Rob Miller:
I guess I didn’t make myself clear.People like you can always find fellow wack jobs who will write anything they can to justify their pathetic existence, get some attention and earn a little coin. I notice you mention some of them in this little screed. You must think you’re the first to throw this lame garbage out there!
One example,just for giggles – you obviously know zip about Haman, and that had nothing to do with ‘Jewish domination of the Persians’. And the humentashen? Those represent his three cornered hat, not his ears, buffoon. Why else do you think they’re shaped that way?
Google this, Jew Hater. Obviously you feel threatened by Jewish success, as opposed to your own failure and intellectual bankruptcy. That’s a common psychological reaction, (envy is a root cause of Jew Hatred) and with therapy I think in time you might overcome it, but I’d charge you at least $150 per hour – payable in advance.
And Israel’s survival? So far, they’ve managed pretty well when the odds were a lot worse than they are today. That in itself ought to tell you something about G-d’s intentions, but of course a brilliant guy like you knows better. Enjoy watching the Jewish Nation thrive. I hope it makes you even crazier than you are now.
And here’s something else you can Google. I have no interest in apologizing for or ‘debating’ Jewish success and survival. It speaks for itself.Read that again and take notes.
I don’t care what you think, have no interest in convincing you of anything, and really don’t care whether you wake up in the morning. You mean nothing to me.